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# Engagement is a weak measure when it does not...
> Engagement is a weak measure when it does not produce stronger people or better work. A serious learning community should ask whether participants gained skill, completed projects, built independent channels, helped one another, and became more capable of serving the public. Applause is pleasant; transferred capability is evidence.
**Source:** [[livestreams/Shared Effort and the Architecture of Opportunity - Workbook|Shared Effort and the Architecture of Opportunity]]
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“Engagement is a weak measure when it does not produce stronger people or better work. A serious learning community should ask whether participants gained skill, completed projects, built independent channels, helped one another, and became more capable of serving the public. Applause is pleasant; transferred capability is evidence.”
— Bryant McGill
https://bryantmcgill.com/quotes/quotes-engagement-weak-measure-transferred-capability-evidence
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