# It's difficult to be rigorous about whether a machine really knows or thinks, because we're… by John McCarthy
> "It's difficult to be rigorous about whether a machine really knows or thinks, because we're hard put to define these things."
> **— John McCarthy**, *The Little Thoughts of Thinking Machines (1983), excerpt candidate*
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