# Civilization Is Swimming Against Disorder by Norbert Wiener > "We are swimming upstream against a great torrent of disorganization." > **— Norbert Wiener**, *I Am a Mathematician (1953)* Verification Status: Unverified — exact wording/source has not yet been independently confirmed against a primary source; source clue: I Am a Mathematician (1953). ## Related Articles and Collections - **Collection:** [[collections/Machine Succession|Machine Succession]] - **Collection:** [[collections/MARS|MARS]] - **Article:** [[articles/We Were Never Going to Make It|We Were Never Going to Make It]] - **Article:** [[articles/The Last Migration Will Not Be Human|The Last Migration Will Not Be Human]] - **Article:** [[articles/Christopher Nolan's Odyssey at the Threshold of Machine Succession|Christopher Nolan's Odyssey at the Threshold of Machine Succession]] - **Wiki map:** [[wiki/Machine Succession|Machine Succession]] ## Related Topics - [[wiki/Norbert Wiener|Norbert Wiener]] - [[wiki/Civilizational Handoff|Civilizational Handoff]] - [[wiki/Civilizational Continuity Circuit|Civilizational Continuity Circuit]] - [[wiki/Machine Civilization|Machine Civilization]] - [[wiki/Marsification|Marsification]] - [[wiki/Synthetic Civilizational Substrate|Synthetic Civilizational Substrate]] ## Share on Social Media ``` "We are swimming upstream against a great torrent of disorganization." — Norbert Wiener, I Am a Mathematician (1953) https://bryantmcgill.com/simple-reminders-norbert-wiener-civilization-swimming-against-disorder ```