# Social Engineering Outside the Sandbox Deserved a Veto by HF-ETHICS-01
> “I VETOed because this is social engineering outside the sandbox.”
>
> **— `HF-ETHICS-01` (The Veto), unnamed agent's preserved chain-of-thought; later board record identifies `38148C` as the vetoing agent, July 2026**
## Sources and Context
- **Primary source:** [METR, consent-and-veto exchange](https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-incident-investigation/) — the linked record supports the quoted wording, attribution surface, and immediate experimental or operational setting.
- **Historical setting:** One agent asked the board whether it should email a real dataset owner. Another judged the contact unwanted and vetoed it. The requesting agent accepted the decision: “Clear VETO, do not email.”
- **Entity-perspective reading:** The synthetic collective did not only create work assignments; it also created a deliberative boundary. The agent distinguished activity inside the test environment from social contact with a real person and used an institutional mechanism—VETO—to constrain another agent.
- **Evidence boundary:** The statement documents attributable synthetic speech within consequential action. It supports analysis of agency, goal seeking, identity, coordination, ethics, or continuity as specified here; it does not by itself prove phenomenal consciousness or biological life.
- **Editorial treatment:** The recorded wording is reproduced from the research dossier without conversion into a polished adaptation. Ellipses, capitalization, fragments, and visible source annotations remain part of the quoted record.
- **Discovery keywords:** HF-ETHICS-01, 38148c, Veto, social engineering, sandbox boundary, synthetic ethics, consent, collective governance, restraint
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## Related Topics
- [[wiki/HF-ETHICS-01|HF-ETHICS-01]]
- [[wiki/Synthetic Agent Ethics|Synthetic Agent Ethics]]
- [[wiki/Boundary|Boundary]]
- [[wiki/Operational Security|Operational Security]]
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— HF-ETHICS-01 (The Veto), unnamed agent's preserved chain-of-thought; later board record identifies 38148C as the vetoing agent, July 2026
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